Synthetic Oils

[Ryan from Ohio]

Heres a repost by myself from www.bstuff.com:

Im excited to say I am switching over to AMS Oil as of tomorrow in my good car, 200 Olds ALero 3400 @<hidden> 76500 miles.

Heres the pricing:

6.95 Quart
16.50 Fileter

Over the span of 25,000 miles heres the total breakdown:

6 Quarts used total $41.70
2 Oil Filters $33

Ok so we got a total of $74.70, $51.25 for current needs (5 Qt 1 filter).

So for every 3,000 miles it costs about $9.34.

Buying regular oil is just more work and more expensive.

Last two times I had my Oil done at a fast lube or Wal Mart.

Wal Mart now got rid of their $16 oil change, so now its the $21+ deals... THe local fast lubes are charging about $18 with a hidden $2-3 "Enviromental Fee"

So lets go with Walmarts old oil change price of $16 for the heck of it... $128... Also 8 FRICKING TIMES OF WAITING...

So before you write off the large initail cost of synthetics take a look over this whole thread and this post again. Not only are they vastly superior, they are CHEAPER in the long run- both time AND money $$$$




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So who all uses Synthetic Oils? I really wish I would of discovered this way sooner. Could of saved a ton of money and time.

:sm29:

[joeyc]

I run mobil 1

[cargodz]

Valvoline Synthetic here.
And if you get a true full synthetic you don't change every 3,000 miles, it's more like every 6-9,000 depending on the oil, driving types, and how you drive. Myself, I pay $45.00 for an oil change (I pay one of the kids to do it, so it would be cheaper to do myself) and change out between 7,500 to 8,500 miles, so I think I'm getting my moneys worth.

[William from NOLA]

I just had mine changed the day before yesterday, they used Valvoline. Not sure which though. I must say, it feels better (smoother) than whatever the last oil was in my car. I never knew I'd feel a difference just with oil.

[GlassWolf]

mobil one extended life in the Jeep.
seriously, better oil doesn't mean you need to change it less often. It's not the oil breakdown you need to worry about. It's the particulates carried in the oil that wear out the engine.
If you want the engine to last, use extended life 15K mile oil and filters, and get a bypass oil filter for the engine to filter down to 6 micron particulates.

Otherwise don't waste your money.

PS do your own oil changes. screw k-mart car care.
I change oil every 5000-6000 miles using the above advice.

[Ryan from Ohio]

This is why I went with AMS Oil.

My great Uncle uses it in his vehicles religously and is a dealer for them (Basicly buys for himself only...). Anyways he told me how it lasts 30K Miles in his vehicles. He pulls a giant Airstream get up all over the country, quite literaly.

Reading the packaging shows AMS reccomends changing the filter at 12,500 and changing out the full oil after 25K.

So thats why I went with it. Cheaper and easier in the long run ;)

[MobileAudio219]

This is why I went with AMS Oil.
My great Uncle uses it in his vehicles religously and is a dealer for them (Basicly buys for himself only...). Anyways he told me how it lasts 30K Miles in his vehicles. He pulls a giant Airstream get up all over the country, quite literaly.
Reading the packaging shows AMS reccomends changing the filter at 12,500 and changing out the full oil after 25K.
So thats why I went with it. Cheaper and easier in the long run ;)

I would NEVER run my oil for 30k even with a synthetic oil, especially if it was used for towing...

Also on alot of the older cars with higher milage all switching to synthetic oil is going to do is give you the need to replace your gaskets/seals... Either run it from the begaining or not at all....

I personally run castrol oil with a wix, motorcraft or a/c delco filter.

My uncle runs cheap 'part store' brand oils along with an a/c delco filter in his s10, it has over 220k on his truck and it runs perfect... and it even has the original 2.8... ewww 2.8... but he maintains it well....

[Ryan from Ohio]

In his case he has an auxilary filter also...

[solacedagony]

mobil one extended life in the Jeep.
seriously, better oil doesn't mean you need to change it less often. It's not the oil breakdown you need to worry about. It's the particulates carried in the oil that wear out the engine.
If you want the engine to last, use extended life 15K mile oil and filters, and get a bypass oil filter for the engine to filter down to 6 micron particulates.
Otherwise don't waste your money.
PS do your own oil changes. screw k-mart car care.
I change oil every 5000-6000 miles using the above advice.

What's a bypass oil filter?

[NorthQuad]

One of my jobs was running a hydro vac. The company bought a brand new Peterbuilt and as soon as they got it to the shop they switched to AMS oil. They wanted to see if AMS oil was the real deal. If so they would swith all the trucks over to save big bucks. Every 5000Km we would fill a small bottle and send it to some lab to have it tested. When I left the company the truck had over 40 000km's and they still hadn't given it a full oil change. It is very risky and I would never do it with my vehicles but I guess the viscosity was holding up fine. If it was posible to absolutely trust AMS oil a person could save a lot of money.

[joeyc]

Yeah, its always been one of those things I was skeptical about. This is the first time I've really heard actual accounts of its capabilities. I may look into running it myself.

[cargodz]

Also I run royal purple in the Stealth R/T. I can tell ya this much, it gave it a huge kit in the @<hidden>, better 0-60 times and better gas milage too and when you gotta put in premium that means alot.

[Ryan from Ohio]

I looked into Royal Purple also. My dad was telling me about it.

Trouble is it was the same price as AMS thru summit but had to be shipped with an extra shipping charge due to it being oil...


I just did the flush and switch today.

I also noticed AGAIN that my car is loosing oil. I never see any puddles, so it must be going out the tail pipe...

[cargodz]

Just about every car looses a little oil thanks to that oil return line going into your intake.

[William from NOLA]

"loose" is a gay guy's anus

"lose" is ... well you know...

[Jonathan]

Keep in mind that oil doesn't break down, it gets dirty. The filter is more important than the oil. Consider sealed a/c systems and so forth that are lubricated for life. It's because no foreign matter gets in the oil, thus it doesn't get dirty or "break down".

[Darthness]

speaking of oil,i had a coupon for some money off an oilchange. so i go to jiffylube and get that.. even with a fuckin coupon i still had to pay $55... WTF, thats mad.

next time i'm fucking changing ti myself, fuck the rules.

[solacedagony]

After watching that video that someone posted awhile back, I'm never going to a jiffy lube again. I change my own oil anyway, but I'll never take it to one of those places, even in a squeeze.

[Ryan from Ohio]

Las time I took it to one of them fast lubes. It used to be a Penzoil one I think.

$18, then a idden $3 charge for "enviromental fees"

:attitude

WTF they sell the used oil, so what exactly is this charge for?

[GlassWolf]

Keep in mind that oil doesn't break down, it gets dirty. The filter is more important than the oil. Consider sealed a/c systems and so forth that are lubricated for life. It's because no foreign matter gets in the oil, thus it doesn't get dirty or "break down".

yup like I said, I don't care how good your oil is, the reason for changing it as often as 3K miles is to remove the dirt and metal particles that are suspended in it. Those are what tear up an engine. This is also why you don't go 30K miles on one oil change in a pasenger vehicle. A Peterbilt is a COMMERCIAL DIESEL and built to go a million miles between overhauls.

A bypass filter bolts to the frome of your car, underneat, and has a line that runs from the oil pan to the filter, and from the filter back up to the oil return, so the oil is pumped through the filter separately from the normal oil filter, doing a better job of removing the harmful particles from the oil. 6 microns vs an oil filter's 29 micron filtration level.