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by Bwcad1 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:59 am

I Heart you jonathan

by Jonathan » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:15 pm

brisgreat1 wrote:Home foreclosures are happening at an alarming rate and a record setting rate, banks are are in danger and jobs are being outsourced and employmers are 'cutting' down on staff. .

Read above post about it. Clinton is the one that authorized subprime lending and OBLIGATED lenders to spend over 1 trillion on them, if they didn't they paid big penalties. Which started the trend of predatory lending (no money down! no credit, bad credit? No problem! etc.). Obama has been right there with them the entire time, suing banks for not lending to people that have no business with a loan to begin with, getting more payouts per year from Fannie Mae than any senator in congress...Who's really offering more of the same here? Like said, research past bills, Bush has tried to stop this years ahead of time. And yes, a majority republican congress didn't approve either, we've had a garbage congress for a while now regardless of what party has the majority
brisgreat1 wrote:Our economy under Clinton... our economy under Bush..

Bill Clinton was given a good economy. Past that point he screwed everything up. We were in a recession before George W. Bush even stepped in office.

by brisgreat1 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:01 pm

Jonathan wrote: McCain had to change his campaign. He had to turn "anti-Bush" not because he is but because the masses are anti-bush and he wouldn't last 2 seconds saying "I'll be the next George W. Bush". Both parties are essentially banking on and trying to take advantage of americans being too ignorant to understand why we're in the shape we're in. And Obama will likely win based on the mass hysteria he's created with the word "change".

....Let's just spread the wealth around and vote socialism so we can all be equally miserable.
Mccain and Bush see eye to eye economically and it's been a disaster for 8 years. If you're the president of the United States it shouldn't take you eight years to get things going your way in the congress/senate especially since his first term the republicans controlled congress. Mccain's policies would've been more of the same, and yes i hate using that slogan because i did see it on an advertisement... but its basically true. Home foreclosures are happening at an alarming rate and a record setting rate, banks are are in danger and jobs are being outsourced and employmers are 'cutting' down on staff. Remember your economy is supposed to flourish during war, however, the exact opposite has happened for eight god damn years. Bush should've stuck to baseball, he's an awful president. Mccain would've infact done much of the same as Bush.
Obama understands that the people in trouble today, which represent the LARGE majority of the U.S., are the people in the middle class. They are the ones getting 'let go' of their jobs, outsourced and being forced to foreclose their homes. You've got people coming out of college with degrees and 60k in debt and unable to get a job. Obama's gonna focus on fixing America... which is the middle class... the majority. I could give a **** if some rich snobs have to settle for 3 multi million dollar vacation getaways as opposed to 4 because their taxes go up. Sorry it seems more important to me that people have a place to live, reliable/steady work and increase in employment opportunities. I love how people say he's gonna win cause hes a great public speaker and blah blah. The mans policies are better, simply put, he was the better man for the job and the right candidate won the election. Our economy under Clinton... our economy under Bush. Mccain vowed to govern our country the same way Bush did. I just don't see the logic behind supporting Mccain, but I can understand if you oppose Obama... just voting Mccain makes no sense whatsoever. He wants to do more with the war against terrorism and all that shit... hell there's a war going on at home on our soil... this economic crisis. Fix yourself before you can fix others, let's take care of our problems first.

by Jonathan » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:11 pm

brisgreat1 wrote:they are looking at the fact that he's FULL FLEDGED supported Bush for 8 years... he made a statement along the lines "if im elected it'll be four more years of the bush administration" early in his campaign. i could give a **** if obama is some celebrity, but 4 more months of the bush campaign could be catastrophic. He's voted for 90% of Bush's economic plans through his two terms... you're getting your facts mixed up, you're the blind/furious one.

Bush's proposed economic plans, since 2001, included numerous attempts to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which was shot down by congress multiple times because they were too busy getting their pockets stuffed by said companies and protected them. It isn't Bush's fault that our economy went in shambles due to this crisis, he and his administration had the foresight to point this out and made multiple attempts to prevent it from occuring. As did John McCain, Elizabeth Dole, etc in 2005 and the bill didn't make the floor (hmmm....). Who's to blame? Your senators and representatives. Most people couldn't even name their senator or representative if asked.

McCain had to change his campaign. He had to turn "anti-Bush" not because he is but because the masses are anti-bush and he wouldn't last 2 seconds saying "I'll be the next George W. Bush". Both parties are essentially banking on and trying to take advantage of americans being too ignorant to understand why we're in the shape we're in. And Obama will likely win based on the mass hysteria he's created with the word "change".

The intended Bush economy would have worked just fine had it not been for idiots in congress such as Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank. And yes, before that point we had a republican majority didn't approve the most important proposals in terms of our economic well being and they're at fault. But Bush or any other president can do little without congress

But let's ignore congress, put the blame on the president and follow the opposing party's new candidate like a sheep even considering his history. I'm not talking past terrorists and socialist groups either, I'm talking his relationships with CEOs of the very companies that kickstarted our economic downturn (not counting the other questionable socialist groups, etc), involvement with the CRA, etc. Let's just spread the wealth around and vote socialism so we can all be equally miserable.

by MobileAudio219 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:00 pm

I voted today at around 2pm... was in and out!

by xmax-1 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:44 pm

MobileAudio219 wrote:everyone get out and vote yet?

4th in line @ 5:30am est. :sm29:

by xmax-1 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:11 pm

brisgreat1 wrote:It's fair. Yeah that's what Bush has been doing for eight years! Look at our economy... look's a little less then fair these days don't it? Sorry stupid comment and you're wrong. The more you make the more you should be taxed, the less you earn the less you should be taxed. And Mccain's all big on 'blah blah opportunity'... shit Obama's method will create 100x the opportunity Mccain will.

I look at it this way, business that make 200K a year getting a tax break isn't the problem. The problem is that "THESE" businesses are greedy. They don't always promote growth. NO PAY INCREASES, NO BONUSES,ect.


8years ago Bush gave us all tax breaks (along whith the republican party that controlled congress....that was left over from the Clinton time). 4 years later, the senate/congress is now run by democrats, and as you said......Now look where we're at.


It's too late to complain now. We're all in this mess and we have to get out of it somehow. Whomever get's the presidency is in for a long haul.

by CaptainPioneer » Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:24 pm

colemanyoungerinalaska wrote:all i have to say is **** every choice we have they are all inadequate cock suckers. mostly im libertarian i think they are the only political party that is really into the constitution republicans and dems are lying assholes who have really screwed our country i really dont care about the outcome of this election or the next cuz all well get is some dumbass puppet

Haha seriously I would have voted for Ron Paul... but I am relating my current situations and forseable future investments and earning potential to what each candidate is proposing... and as it stands now Obama is the right choice for me...

He has big plans to pump some much needed $$$ into education reform and finally look at NCLB, which can i say from 1st hand experience is a major pain in the ass....

Anyhow... Hope everyone is watching the election results tonight, I know my students are...

by OnYrMrk » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:19 pm

Rofl!!!!

by cargodz » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:14 pm

^While that may or not be true (probably is though :p )... Everyone that is a registered voter should get out and vote if you truly want any part of your opinion to be heard... And yes I voted this morning... And I'm sure while counting the ballots they're going to say who the hell is Joe Wallis? :p lol

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