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Frequency rates?? Where they go?

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by GlassWolf » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:57 pm

a few subs to consider;
Resonant Engineering SE 15
Image Dynamics IDMax
RE (again) XXX
Alpine Type X (sealed box, good SQ driver)

you want a sub with a good BL that offers a lot of motor control over the driver's moving mass. That way regardless of driver surface area, you have a tight, well controlled sub so it stays accurate and fast if given ample power. How deelpy it hits, and how hard at that point will depend on the box you go with, but I'd go sealed or aperiodic if you want a sub that hits deep and has tremendous detail at low frequencies for SQ.. those are my thoughts.
BL and Qts are more important than cone surface area/diameter when it comes to picking a sub for SQ in my opinion.
With enough power and a strong enough motor, you can control pretty much any sub within reason.

by racerraul » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:15 am

Oak244 wrote:It just came recomended to me by someone when I said I was looking for a good SQ sub. He said he has Rp'L subs before the Mag, and the Mag blew them out of the water in every respect.
I have no real expereince with either... so I couldn't say... But do take personal opinions with care...

But here is an objective discussion I happen to stumble upon...
https://secure26.hostgator.com/~npdang/ ... .php?t=828

by Oak244 » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:30 am

It just came recomended to me by someone when I said I was looking for a good SQ sub. He said he has Rp'L subs before the Mag, and the Mag blew them out of the water in every respect.

by racerraul » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:17 am

Oak244 wrote:If I end up spend in excess of $300 on a subwoofer, I will probably go with a Stereo Integrity Mag 12 or 15"

http://www.stereointegrity.com/subwoofers.html

any thought?
Well after reading all that, it seems like a SPL geared sub... if that is the goal... looks like a good driver.

Other than that, are there any reviews on them yet?

At that price range I would be looking into a Diamond TDX D9 instead...
http://www.icixsound.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15791

by Oak244 » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:09 am

If I end up spend in excess of $300 on a subwoofer, I will probably go with a Stereo Integrity Mag 12 or 15"

http://www.stereointegrity.com/subwoofers.html

any thought?

by racerraul » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:55 am

I don't know what you are looking to spend on this driver... but here are a couple of good recommendations for SQ...

The most affordables...
Dayton Titanic MkIII 15"... uses copper rings in the coil. Low distortion driver.
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdet ... -420&DID=7

Diamond D6 15"... excellent SQ sub line from Diamond Audio.

Diamond TDX D9 15"... expensive, but again low distortion & extreme output.. prob 2nd only to the W7 in SQ. In my extensive use of Diamond drivers (I used to sell them) the D6 is perhaps their best SQ sub, but no where near as capable in output.

Want to dare & be different??? This is one I have been wondering about for a while... certainly has the features that make up a SQ sub...
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl ... er=297-150

by Oak244 » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:30 am

Cool thanks. I just remember the Pioneers were fun. Anyway, SQ is the most important thing for my system anyway. Yes I am looking at a 15" sub because I will have 8" midbass drivers in my doors playing 55-60Hz-250Hz. I figured since the sub was not going to have to play the 60-80hz range like I normally have it do, I could go with a 15" to match my new large front stage. I will have CDT Eurosports in the kick pannels, Upstage Tweeters in the A Pillar, CDT EF-8 midbass driver in the front doors, And some kind of good 15" in the trunk.

by GlassWolf » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:13 am

the measurement is mostly useless because it's anechoic, and changes in the car, and in a box.. not to mention most audio source material is filtered at 20Hz and 20KHz, and you'll cross over the drivers before they run out of their frequency range to avoid other issues like cone flutter.
For a 15" sub, cross it over around 50-60Hz. no higher, or it'll flutter and sound "boomy" or "loose."
the chart would say it'll play to 200Hz, but don't bother trying it.
as far as how deeply it'll play.. look at the sub's Fs. If it's a ported box, you don't want to tune the port below the Fs of the driver anyway, and then you'll filter at that point too, in order to prevent the sub from unloading.
If the box is sealed, it should go to about 10Hz flat with cabin cain factored in so that's not much of an issue either.

by Bwcad1 » Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:06 am

yea i know i was just stating the fact that my sub will get that low.

by Justin from Detroit1 » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:58 am

Like Bass said, most amps don't even produce freq that low. They generally have a cutoff around 20-24hz

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