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Well after almost 24 hours of non-stop research on subs and amps and ohm and wiring and...everything that has to do with car audio i have come to the point where i have decided to buy a AlPINE Type R 12" sub( 500rms/1500peak). Everyone says they are good for the money, so what the hell i will try one out.
but the question is, what amp should i buy? i have narrowed it down to 7 choices in 2 categories.
the ones i can buy now:
1.Audiobahn a12005dn- 600rms
2.Phoenix Gold R8.0:1 Octane- 600rms
3.Kicker KX400.1- 400rms
these are the ones i could buy now please pick the best choice

and then these are the ones i can buy after i save up some more dough
1.Alpine MRD-m605 - 600rms
2.Orion 600 D class D - 400rms
3 Diamond Audio D3600.1 - 450rms
4.JL Audio e1400 D - 500 rms

then pick one from these.

i would really prefer to have one right now and not save up and spend a lot of money
anyones input would be appreciated

1.Audiobahn = hell no
2.Phoenix Gold = no
3.Kicker KX400.1= not bad (look into JBL too)

1.Alpine MRD-m605 = getting better
2.Orion 600 D class D = not a fan of their DEI stuff
3 Diamond Audio D3600.1 = better yet
4.JL Audio e1400 D = my favorite out of the group

While I have you, let me give you a little advice. Its always better to save your money and get what you really want. Even if you have to wait a few weeks. Then it is to spend money on something you don't really want, and end up spending more later.

i ran my type R off of the mrd m605 and it sounded GREAT one can be gotten off ebay new for around 250

Well i think im going to go with the kicker 400.1 b/c i found it on e-bay for $135 which is a steal, i know it is not the best, but that is okay b/c it is saving me big heaps of dough. and im not planning on competing or anything i just want some added bass.

so the kicker for 135$ is a pretty good deal right?

and it will power the type r well?

thanks

How about subs like Resonant Engineering RE series?

$77 a sub shipped?

12mm one way xmax...

Only needs 150-175 WRMS to get them singing...

Just something else to consider.

yeah everyone says that the RE subs are very nice. But i dont think that would provide nearly enough volume. Really i dont know b/c i have not heard many subs, but do you think that one of those would have the car really bumping?

but also would that kicker work with the type R? (i've heard that underpowering the sub can damage it, but i figure 400-450rms from the amp is close enough to the 500rms rating on the sub)

they would bump fine..

i thought the same thing when i got my JL 13w1, but its pretty satisfying.

if this helps any... it gets loud enough to hurt, and the jl 13w1 has like slightly more xmax, handles 200w, etc.

so you are saying that your 200w rms jl gets loud enough to hurt?

I've listened to 200 rms subs in stores and they do not seem to get super loud(especially not loud enough to hurt my ears)?

maybe i will change my whole plan if the type r is super loud, b/c i dont really want super lound, i just want loud enough to really feel it but not so loud it hurts.

(and were you saying that the RE's would bump fine, or the kicker / type R setup would bump fine???) little confused

all of them will bump fine, imo... the kicker / type r will get louder but i thinkt he RE's will be fine,especially if you don't listen to much rap.

and i don't really mean it hurts (not super loud btw..).. its just if you turn it up loud enough at the right song/frequency it you can feel slight pain in your ear. I love my 13w1 though :) Store displays are different than cars for sure, and especially the crap most stores keep in stock.

so do you think that one RE @ 150rms would be able to bump well, and have people outside of the car hear it bumping?

if not what RMS rating would you recommend for loud and bumping bass but not such a high RMS that it will rattle the entire car or hurt my ears?