Tires??

JeremyC · Post by **JeremyC** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:10 pm

Well its that time. I need some new tires, but I would like some opinions from you all first.

My car came with these, and they are nice, but I would like something a little better. (they do good with wet or dry, but the SUCK with ANY snow or ice)

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... es&place=6

I know I want an all season performance tire, with a v or higher speed rating, and good wet / light snow traction (it rains and snows alot here) (tire size 225 50 R17)

These are the two I have found so far, but I will consider other options.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... es&place=2

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... es&place=3

solacedagony · Post by **solacedagony** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:17 pm

I'll wait to steal your thread until you're done getting some answers. :) I'd like to get some suggestions myself since mine tires are about to go.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:45 pm

The Pilot Sport A/S would be my choice from those. Others may be the Goodrich G-force T/A KDWS, Continental ContiExtremeContact. The Continentals are probably the better tires when taking snow into consideration.

JeremyC · Post by **JeremyC** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:04 pm

Those BF Goodrich are mean looking, but I can't run them. Unless I bye a new set of rims, (one for summer and one for winter) I am stuck with all seasons. If I get in a wreck during the winter with those its a 500 euro ticket.

AND, they don't make them in the size I need.

The Continental's look nice, but I think I am still leaning towards the Pilot Sports. IMO the pilots are a better looking tire, but I need to check out the specs and rating again before I could decide between the two.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:15 pm

I think you're thinkin about the summer G-force TAs. I'm talkin about these:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... T%2FA+KDWS

But they still aren't in your size. Those Contis would be better in snow, but not as good in dry/wet conditions. Pick your poison.

The newer Bridgestone Potenzas are SOOOO good, but I don't have a clue how the all season models are.

JeremyC · Post by **JeremyC** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:02 pm

Yeah they do look pretty good.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... es&place=4

Better rating than the pilot sports, cooler looking tread design, and about 40 bucks a tire cheaper. Hmmmmm, we might have a winner. I wish they had snow and ice ratings, but I think they will do ok.

As I said earlier, I am not set yet, but I have a new front runner. Thanks a ton for the help.

JeremyC · Post by **JeremyC** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:14 pm

Well I did some more reading, and I am about 50 / 50 between the two.

From what I am hearing the Michelin pilots are better dry traction, but Michelin’s tend to loose their M/S ability after about 15000 miles. Not sure if the pilots will fall into the problem, but its something to keep in mind.

The Bridgestone Potenza seems to be the better all season (M/S) tire, but doesn't handle as well in dry weather.

Jonathan, you don't happen to know of any independent testing on the two do you. The reviews on tirerack.com, are good, but leave a little to be desired.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:53 pm

Don't doubt it. Dry traction and mud/snow traction are pretty much exclusive, hence the fact that there are designs tailored to have a lot of either.

Most of the Michelins I've used or have seen used have had good treadwear characteristics, including performance down the long run. Of course assuming they're rotated as needed and the car is kept aligned, as is the case with making any tire last. But performance tires are performance tires, very few have what you'd consider good treadwear. Most are horrible.

I still feel that Continental to be the best compromise if handling in the snow is a big concern, but you'll trade dry traction for it. Really depends on how much snow you see. I know guys that justify running drag radials on their daily driver, it's all about what you're willing to give up haha.

cargodz · Post by **cargodz** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:08 am

Jonathan wrote: I still feel that Continental to be the best compromise if handling in the snow is a big concern, but you'll trade dry traction for it. Really depends on how much snow you see. I know guys that justify running drag radials on their daily driver, it's all about what you're willing to give up haha.

Myself I'd be going the route of Jonathans suggestions with the Conti's... In an independant road test run by car and driver the conti's came out on top for best over all; Price, wet, dry, snow.... great combo tire

JeremyC · Post by **JeremyC** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:50 am

Snow isn't to big of a concern, but I do live on a hill, and my previous tires sucked. So I want something better, but don't want to give up to much dry traction. The roads here are way to much fun for that. :happy055:

Either way, thanks for the help. You all definatly got me pointed in the right direction.