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by OnYrMrk » Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:31 am

I know the specs say that this subwoofer likes a ported box, but I have the same subwoofer and it is in a 1.77cuft SEALED enclosure. granted, the output isn't much ( best is 132db ) but, it does do one thing very well. It is the perfect SQ sub to me. Light, tight, controlled...if a sub could sing, this would be the sub.

The only difference between his and mine is that I have the dual 2ohm 13" subwoofer

welcome back GEO, you were missed bro!

by cargodz » Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:16 am

Like Ryan... Glad to see ya Back Geo :D

Carry on with the topic ;)

by Jonathan » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:24 pm

This sub itself is designed along the lines of getting a sealed type of response, with the advantages a ported box has in terms of reducing excursion around tuning, lowering distortion at that point, etc. The subwoofer itself doesn't have a ton of excursion and it's a good compromise for a SQ application.

by solacedagony » Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:23 am

Ryan from Ohio wrote:Geo!

Hes alive!

Nice to see ya.
He's been busy with another forum ;)

If the Focal doesn't offer enough output, you can always add more :)

by tomcat » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:18 am

The longer I have it and the more I listen to it the more I like it. It does sound great, I was just expecting to much with just 400 watts. I guess I'm just to much of a bass head and it took me awhile to appreciate the SQ side car audio.

by Ryan from Ohio » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:25 pm

Geo!

Hes alive!

Nice to see ya.

by Tim » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:55 pm

they are very much "the subs" you would think of at the extreme SQ end of the spectrum.


that was the way I thought of Focal, also.

Tim

by geolemon » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:12 pm

I used to be a Focal dealer, and the designs are a little more "old school" conservative. They aren't high excursion subs by any means, nor do they have particularly strong motors. The construction is high quality, the materials are as fine as they use in their midrange drivers, and when they are used as SQ subs, they are outstanding. But they simply aren't SPL subs - they are very much "the subs" you would think of at the extreme SQ end of the spectrum.
;)

by Jonathan » Thu May 29, 2008 10:59 am

solacedagony wrote:So there is an "optimal" port volume where too high and too low will both negatively effect output through the port.
Not really. It just gets to a point that the bigger you go, the sheer size of the port and box is impractical.

The port itself performs as a solid mass of air, rather than a hole in a box. The air is effectively trapped within the port walls, and while it doesn't have excursion limits, air flow velocity can negatively affect both output and sound quality. You can model this in WinISD and view the port air velocity in different configurations.

The lower you tune or the larger your box, generally the more port area you need because of the velocity created by the two. I don't really go by a set formula for port area in terms of square inches of port area per the box volume, but rather the velocity created around tuning. Remember that at tuning, the port is really doing most of the work, it's "cracking the whip", sucking energy out of the internal air pressure created in the box, loading the subwoofer because it's using it as the fulcrum to bear the force of it's own acceleration. That's why subwoofer excursion is drastically reduced at tuning. The lower the tune, the more excursion the port is required to have thus the added necessity for port area, just like with subs, you'd rather do it with surface area than with excursion.

The amount of output your subwoofer is capable of will also affect the required port area. Take a 4" port which has roughly 12sq.in of port area. If you have a 12" subwoofer (roughly 100sq.in of area), you've got around an 8-1 ratio of cone to port area. If a 12" sub moved .50", the port would have to move around 4 inches. If the sub moves 1", the port has to move 8 inches etc. Obviously that's a lot of velocity and airflow required by a port.

by Bwcad1 » Thu May 08, 2008 9:04 am

solacedagony wrote:So there is an "optimal" port volume where too high and too low will both negatively effect output through the port.
i guess i'm getting confused on the port volume or port area?

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