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by **Bwcad1** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:10 pm

Bwcad1 wrote:That's odd do a quick check about Meth in Ohio and Medina... we have a pretty serious issue here as well. Its also my opinion that the min anyone of those people endanger myself or my family i should be able to end there life. Dont get me wrong im not all about old wild wild west but what makes you the moral authority to tell someone what they can and cant do with there life? Where do you draw the line. This isnt a perfect world and we need boundry's Drugs like meth heroin and cocaine should be eradicated. Looks like you drink quite a bit of beer. That is potentially dangerous to you and the people around you because it can alter your judgment i think we should take that from you. That saw you used to make your box or the fiberglass resin you used for your door pods could potentially harm someones lungs in your area we cant have you using that. Where do you draw the line?

by the way i don't endorse drug use and myself i have never even touched them. I have no use for them, i also rarely drink. that doesn't mean i think i have the right to tell anyone not to use it.

by **Bwcad1** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:58 pm

MobileAudio219 wrote:I live in the meth capital of the world and have family members who are addicts. Meth is such a powerful and addicted drug that if we didn't have laws against it, it would literally take over the country.
So yeah, what they do does indeed affect us. They drive down property value, nobody wants to live next door to a meth house (they're about 500% more likely to explode than any other house.
They steal to maintain their addiction.
I could go on and on but I'm about to leave.
So yeah, I completely disagree with you. Meth is becoming more and more popular, when it ends up your neighborhood, you'll surely see it my way... or be an addicted, one of the two.

That's odd do a quick check about Meth in Ohio and Medina... we have a pretty serious issue here as well. Its also my opinion that the min anyone of those people endanger myself or my family i should be able to end there life. Dont get me wrong im not all about old wild wild west but what makes you the moral authority to tell someone what they can and cant do with there life? Where do you draw the line. This isnt a perfect world and we need boundry's Drugs like meth heroin and cocaine should be eradicated. Looks like you drink quite a bit of beer. That is potentially dangerous to you and the people around you because it can alter your judgment i think we should take that from you. That saw you used to make your box or the fiberglass resin you used for your door pods could potentially harm someones lungs in your area we cant have you using that. Where do you draw the line?

by **colemanyoungerinalaska** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:34 pm

up here its mandatory to test the placenta for drugs is it the same way everywhere?

by **Tim** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:50 am

Hey dudes, well I talked to my stepmom monday night and she said the baby is doing really well. It's levels were at like 8 or 9 and they were down to 0 Monday afternoon.

The girl could be in a bit of trouble though. She is gonna be drug tested EVERYDAY till whenever. And she may have to go to court for this so.... I guess we just wait and see what happens to her.

But for the present the baby is doing really well.

I just wanted to thank everyone for their prayers. I know it helped.

Thanks guys,

Tim

by **Tim** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:05 am

audiobass10 wrote:Why was he on methadone is the question. It's used for heroin users, but i've never heard of it being used to ween peole off meth. Maybe it's true, but i've just never heard of it. Doesn't make sense since heroin is an opiate and methadone is considered in the opiod family as welll, though meth is not. Interesting either way why they would put them on that. Maybe it wasn't doctors? Btw i'm just wondering not saying you're wrong or lying lol, just to make it clear.

Not taken that way at all. I have always wondered that myself. But he is not the only one that has been treated with methadone around here. That seems to be the trend at our comp care. (that is what we call rehab). But I have several friends who have been treated for meth, with Methadone. And I have also heard tell of them using suboxone to treat them when the Methadone doesnt work. I dont know why they do it that way. But yeah, I understand your confusion because I am confused on this myself.

Tim

by **audiobass10** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:33 pm

Tim wrote:Yes it is, I should have been more clear, the dude that I was talking about was coming off meth. He said the methadone really was hard on him.
It was hard enough for me to come off the stuff I was on. I couldnt imagine coming off heroin or even meth. I hope the girl gets some help, and I sure hope the baby is ok.
tim

Why was he on methadone is the question. It's used for heroin users, but i've never heard of it being used to ween peole off meth. Maybe it's true, but i've just never heard of it. Doesn't make sense since heroin is an opiate and methadone is considered in the opiod family as welll, though meth is not. Interesting either way why they would put them on that. Maybe it wasn't doctors? Btw i'm just wondering not saying you're wrong or lying lol, just to make it clear.

by **Tim** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:14 pm

audiobass10 wrote:It's nearly impossible for most heroin addicts to go cold turkey as it's such a powerful drug. It takes control of you physically and mentally. As other opiate based drugs, it's normally best to ween yourself off. The sickness someone gets when withdrawaling from these drugs is terrible. Methadone works, it just has downfalls like anything else. Suboxone is now being used for many opiate users and has proven effective, though i'm not sure it's prescribed to heroin users, but more to people addicted to painkillers such as hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine, fentanyl, hydromorphone and the many other codeine based medications.

Yes it is, I should have been more clear, the dude that I was talking about was coming off meth. He said the methadone really was hard on him.

It was hard enough for me to come off the stuff I was on. I couldnt imagine coming off heroin or even meth. I hope the girl gets some help, and I sure hope the baby is ok.

tim

by **William from NOLA** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:25 am

The interesting thing one of my professors told me about heroin is that you can't overdose on it when injecting it in your veins. The people that "overdose" like that are killed because of the amount of fluid other than blood in the veins. In other words, you can die just injecting water in your veins.

Note: Injecting water is different from an IV drip.

by **Ryan from Ohio** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:15 am

Drugs are illegal and anyone using or in possession of them risks being arrested, thrown in jail and abused by Bubba.

by **audiobass10** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:10 pm

It's nearly impossible for most heroin addicts to go cold turkey as it's such a powerful drug. It takes control of you physically and mentally. As other opiate based drugs, it's normally best to ween yourself off. The sickness someone gets when withdrawaling from these drugs is terrible. Methadone works, it just has downfalls like anything else. Suboxone is now being used for many opiate users and has proven effective, though i'm not sure it's prescribed to heroin users, but more to people addicted to painkillers such as hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine, fentanyl, hydromorphone and the many other codeine based medications.

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