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I'd get SEAS Excel raw drivers and do a DIY before I would pay 10gs for Rainbow References. Sure, I may not have crossovers with Kimber Kable in them, but the same drivers for $9000 less, add the cost of a good active crossover, sign me up, baby!

The drivers are even nearly the same in specs, main difference is the cosmetics. If I remember correctly the 6.5" midbass is in the .35 Qts range, can we say Aperiodic midbass drivers

rainbow's top end components are ten grand per set.
rainbow in the US is all handled by Alumapro dealers now, and I don't believe they sell online.

http://www.reaudio.com for RE's site

their top of the line comps are like 7gs. i dont know if they sell them online but i think there is one place that sells some online

i heard rainbow audio was good but wheres an online dealer and how expensive are they???

i would probaly just get 2 medium subs like the elevation audio pro 12"s those will fit in about anything and get a decent amp to run them and get rid of the abahns and get a decent front stage like u were talking.

well concedring im 16 with no real job bout 500-650 but the thing is i wont always have this van so i want someting that will fit in a car im probably getting a cougar (its a hatch) in the next year and a half so i was gunna replace the 5 1/4 speakers and keep my abahns and my boston rally 6s and put them in the van as well

whats ur budget?

yea i had to go somewhere....whats the website for re?

what's with the "...." post?
are you really that impatient after only 20 minutes?? lol

for 4 twelves you're talking 8cu ft of box volume (more actually).
I'd suggest considering two 18" subs instead, and using good ones, like two RE SX18 subs. They're about $309 each, so for $620 you're good to go. You'd spend at least that for four 12" subs, and more to amplify all of them well, whereas for two SX18 subs, you can feed them anywhere from 500-1500 watts RMS each and get outstanding results with a vented enclosure.

RE also makes good components, if you want to go with a matched system for speakers. I'd use coaxials in back and separates in front, if it were me, then add a good 4 channel amp at around 75x4 @ 4 ohms to drive them. cross over components at about 100Hz, 12dB slope, and the subs at 50 to 60Hz, 18dB slope.
you'll get great results and teeth-jarring bass

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