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MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Sat May 07, 2005 5:43 pm

Mithrandir wrote:i think they need to do something about rap effecting todays youth

Thats problem with todays society... WE can't keep blaming others for our behavior! If some ones tells you to jump off a ten story building are you going to? NO! But if you do, guess what, youre a eff tard and you got what you deserve. If you commit a crime its not because of the movies you watch or the music you listen to, its because your an idiot...

Mithrandir · Post by **Mithrandir** » Sat May 07, 2005 8:15 pm

no but it does have an influence and dont tell me it doesnt because when i listen to it i tend to become more violent, and i know a lot of people do. Music can change our mood and such. Society is glorifying the gangster image and pimps and hoes and all of this. Something should be done on many levels

nist7 · Post by **nist7** » Sat May 07, 2005 8:23 pm

whoever listens to vocals in rap songs? are they too poor to afford subs?

anyways, mith, i don't think this whole rap music influence thing is going to go out of hand. i agree with you that it may turn some ppl violent, but overall, teens do listen to plenty of other music and, granted, attain other forms of entertainment (TV, movies, magazines, etc.), which may be more influential than music.

Jonathan · Post by **Jonathan** » Sat May 07, 2005 8:32 pm

Rap turns people goofy more than violent. Some people do have rough lives and really live like rap points out, but once you see rich spoiled kids whose parents make 6 figure salaries walking around trying to be a gangsta, it helps you understand everything that is wrong about people today. That's their own fault though, and I'll put money down that 99% of them will look at a picture 10 years from now and want to slap themselves for their own idiocy.

Darthness · Post by **Darthness** » Sat May 07, 2005 9:17 pm

I listen to alot of rap, both mainstreem and underground/local. I have to say this, if you listen to rap or put money into a system and the only purpose is to try and impress people and you don't even like rap that much, you're a dumb fuck, blunt-plain and simple! I listen to rap, and put money into car audio not to show off, but because i actually like the music, the bass, ect. I also listen to rock, metal, hardcore, ect. A few minutes ago i was listening to a local hardcore band, now i'm listening to some local rap! Get it?

taylor17 · Post by **taylor17** » Sat May 07, 2005 9:26 pm

Well, Korn has some really great bass for rock, just thought I would throw that tid bit in.:-)
I dissagree on the old stuff is the way to go. In my opinion most of the old stuff is slow, and talks about how hard it was growing up. I like the total oppisit, I like the fast uplifting beats, and that doesn't talk about how hard they've had it.
Thats just my taste in rap though.

Post by **GlassWolf** » Sun May 08, 2005 7:13 am

a case of life imitating art?

Everything comes down to choices, and if you choose to be violent, then you are to blame. I take responsibility for my actions, and I think more people should, instead of looking to blame society, or institutions for their own laziness or malcontent. I get tired of seeing people sue for stupid reasons just to get easy money, and succeeding. I get tired of seeing parents blame everybody but themselves for the way their kids turn out. I watched violent movies, listened to rap music, played with toy guns as a child, and nearly every other activity people now blame anti-social behavior on, and I think I turned out pretty well, all things considered. I have a healthy respect, and a good solid understanding of firearms (I've run shooting ranges) and I don't condone violence against others without good cause, such as in the defense of one's own safety or the safety of others. All this having been said, yes I understand that there is emotion in music, however, people should have the cognitive skills to be able to differentiate between their feelings and physical actions. Just because I disagree with someone or even really dislike them or something they say, doesn't instantly make me leap over a table and throttle them. This is the same for music. You may feel a rush of adrenaline from a song. That doesn't mean you have to go beat up someone on the street as a result, nor is it an excuse to do so.
There is only so much the government can do about music, since it's considered freedom of speach. Morality is an ever changing field, and differs from person to person even within a society. Look at the Puritan values our forefathers judged society on in the 1700s, compared to what we have today. Were things better then? worse? Yeah I agree things could be better, but they could be a whole lot worse too.

In the end, society is made up of you. How you act will define society as a whole. You're just as much a piece of the puzzle as the guy next to you, so if you want things to change, then start with yourself, and act the way you want others to act. Set an example and lead by it. That's all you can do in the end anyway. Many just choose not to realize this or think they can achieve more by acting counter-productively to prove a point.

MobileAudio219 · Post by **MobileAudio219** » Sun May 08, 2005 9:12 am

Mithrandir wrote:no but it does have an influence and dont tell me it doesnt because when i listen to it i tend to become more violent, and i know a lot of people do. Music can change our mood and such. Society is glorifying the gangster image and pimps and hoes and all of this. Something should be done on many levels

You sir are a danger to society. It's people exactly like you who make this world a dangerous place. If you become violent from listening to music or watching a movie your ignorant. Obviously your parents failed to teach you the difference between fact and fiction, right from wrong. The truth of the matter is that it's your parents job to raise you right, not societys. It's your parents job to keep you away from such material until you are mature enough to view its content. Now with that being said, it's obvious your parents need take your cd's and movies away and revoke your tv privileges to just the cartoon network until you are mature enough to move on to more adultish content.

lotas · Post by **lotas** » Sun May 08, 2005 10:12 am

KikiTheCat wrote:"There is worse out there, I've seen a lot of people talk all day about how much they hate black people (using every obscenity they can), then go to their truck and pop a Lil Jon CD in."

Lil Jon makes me hate black people, too. *grin*
ok not really. I like black people. I just hate lil jon. I think his name was derived from his nickname given to him by his last girlfriend. "Its so little!"

Maybe we could get Lil Jon, all of Weezer, and Celine Dion to take a plane ride together, and do a stirring rendition of the Buddy Holly demise.

After that, we just need to get rid of fitty cent and nelly.. and maybe Jay Z, too.

not a weezer fan kiki

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audiobass10 · Post by **audiobass10** » Sun May 08, 2005 10:24 am

MobileAudio219 wrote:You sir are a danger to society. It's people exactly like you who make this world a dangerous place. If you become violent from listening to music or watching a movie your ignorant. Obviously your parents failed to teach you the difference between fact and fiction, right from wrong. The truth of the matter is that it's your parents job to raise you right, not societys. It's your parents job to keep you away from such material until you are mature enough to view its content. Now with that being said, it's obvious your parents need take your cd's and movies away and revoke your tv privileges to just the cartoon network until you are mature enough to move on to more adultish content.

It's *you're* ignorant. Might as well set an example with proper word usage if you're going to call someone ignorant