I need tweeters

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:59 am

before id spend that kinda money on those i think id give it a whirl and try to build them my self

Robert Wollenberg · Post by **Robert Wollenberg** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:01 am

I've been considering that too. Once I get my Jeep squared away, my girlfriend won't let me touch the Jag, so I'll be out of projects. What's the worse that could happen, right?

Post by **GlassWolf** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:39 pm

yeah really don't take my commentary personally. I won't fault ya for liking klipsch. with that it's more my preference than any quality issues. I just wanted to save you wasting your money on that B&O junk.. I remember how pretty their stuff was when I'd see it in Audio Associates back in the 80s and early 90s, but thankfully I stuck with Mitsubishi for my TV and VCR from tehm, and KEF Reference mains for my speakers. The more I learned about B&O the more I realized they really are a lot like Bose.. a lot on image, and very lacking in real quality or performance... and who wants to buy a gold plated turd, right?

Yamaha and Denon make very nice mid level receivers and such, so those were both good choices.. I looked at Denon but went Onkyo myself for a receiver for my HT.. at the time, they offered the same features with a better price tag and better remote control. At present if I got an integrated AV receiver, I'd probably go with the Denon AVR-5803 unless I went for something more simple from a company like Rotel.

Robert Wollenberg · Post by **Robert Wollenberg** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:02 pm

I've been checking out the site and info raceraul gave me and was wondering if I could get everyone's opinion on something. He suggested the LPG 25nfa/na tweet. I was checking it out and I have to say, it does look like a really good tweet. While on the site, I came across another tweet that I think deserves some looking into, the Scan-Peak D2904/710001. I thought I had made up my mind on the LCY-130s until I came across the Scan-Peaks. So, what do you guys think? Is there enough of a difference in the more expensive tweets to warrant the price? Or is the LPG tweet really all that and a bag of chips?

http://www.madisound.com/pdf/scanspeak/ ... 10001e.pdf
http://www.madisound.com/pdf/lpg.pdf
http://www.e-speakers.com/products/lcy-components.html

I also keep going back and looking at these ... http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl ... er=277-021
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl ... er=277-050

Does anybody have any personal experiences with any of these?

racerraul · Post by **racerraul** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:43 pm

It's not that the LPG are all that & a bag of chips, but how close they get in performance to the expesive alternatives that makes them such a steal for the price...

In the end...I have to ask you... how good are your tuning skills? It will be a must & will make or break your results regardless of what you get...

I can tell you this... if you were impresed by B&O speakers, gimme a few days with your Utopias & the LPG tweeters & you'll swear you have never heard anything better...

Tuning is key & I see the the LPG are definitely inexpensive enough that if you break them it wont hurt that much...

As for the scans... I highly recommend these instead...
http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index. ... 6&pid=1142

Instead of those Morels, I think this is easily a better tweeter...
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl ... er=275-130
I have these going into my Saturn & when I am done with the car, the same tweeters will replace the LPG 25nfa I am using in the truck.

Robert Wollenberg · Post by **Robert Wollenberg** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:45 am

I think the Scan-Speaks are winning the battle. (D2904/6000-00) As much as I'd like to go with a larger more home-speakerish driver, I just don't have the space. I could create it I suppose, but it would have to come from somewhere and a Jeep Cherokee just doesn't have much space to give up. I'd loose too much comfort putting anything in the kick panel. So, I'm restricted to the doors alone. Two focal mids and the scan-speak tweets will fit much easier and should sound plenty good. I believe I've figured out the efficiency of the drivers and power output of the amps so the front stage should be pretty well balanced. Now ... I'm considering replacing my kicker L7s for something more SQish. Probably a 12" or maybe two. For the days I want to throw in some Swisha House and annoy people stuck in traffic around me. :)

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:50 am

i was thinking about suggesting differnt subs before because you were going pretty deeply into a very very nice sq front stage and then you would be stuck with the ass cannons in the back. how good of a 12" do you want and whats your price range? and how much juice do you have to power them?

Robert Wollenberg · Post by **Robert Wollenberg** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:24 am

Well, I like things to match so which ever amp I get I want my front stage and sub amps to match. I was looking at Elevation amps. The 80x4 for the front and the other one for the sub/subs. That's completely not set in stone though. I know there are a lot of good amps out there. I'm not done shopping yet. My system works right now but barely. The front stage is top on my list to fix. Then I'd like to do the subs and amps in one shot since the building will involve them both. Then deck. I also just found out I'm deploying in Jan so I might not get past the front stage until I get back.

I'd like a good 12" or even a 15" I guess. I know I don't have to spend 1k on subs to get a good system going back there. But again, it tends to be what ever it takes. As for power, since the amps haven't been bought yet, how ever much I need to push what ever I buy will be what I get. I don't plan on rebuilding the Jeep system for a while once I get this done.

I still have to buy an exaust header, cat back system, power chip, differentials, ring&pinions, bumpers, winch, etc.

racerraul · Post by **racerraul** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:27 am

sinister audio wrote:...ass cannons in the back.

LOL... that was funny... I try not to comment on the Kicker Square subs because I don't think much of them either...

Since you are willing to spend the cash, I highly recommend that you talk to sinister about DLS amps & subs... great stuff... quite the force in SQ competitions.

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:37 am

i knew someone would get a kick out of that comment. but that pretty much discribes the out put from them. i would look at getting a ur12/ur15 they look very very tastey and they will sound even better than they look. i wish they still made the x12 i read a review on it once and it was said "if there was ever a perfect sub that this would be it by far" i always talk to Pinny and try to get him to find me one but he said he cant.