Looking for input on slew rates

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:14 am

Having owned McIntosh in the past and Audison in the present, I can say that you get what you pay for. The McIntosh multi-channel amps have individual power supplies and an anti-clipping feature that is really helpful. They are not high current amps as I have only seen them get down to 2 ohm, but the MC4000M 6-channel that I owned, well that bad boy was worth the 4,000 dollar price tag. You have to understand that in all aspects of car audio, you will find those who believe in quality rather than quantity.

Sinister quoted it best on his website: "We are glad to announce that we have just become a dealer for Hifonics, Crunch, and Autotek. 3 different brands 3 different levels of quality. The Crunch is a great choice for new guys getting into
Mobile Audio or need a budget system. The Hifonics is a great for
the average car enthusiast that wants the power from the gods. And
Autotek is for the consumer that wants audiophile grade products and has a higher budget."

everyone has their desires. For the general consumer, the RF, Premier, Orion, Audiobahn brands do just what they want. For the more discriminating customer, JL Slash, Zapco, Autotek, Arc Audio will suffice. For the competitor/audiophile who wants pure quality, McIntosh, Tru, Genesis, Audison, Milbert will make them weak in their knees.

Everyone has their own preferences and budgets. And thankfully there is a quality product for each preference and budget out there.

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:22 am

id like to get my hands on a genesis amp some time and also a mcintosh. i have been offered to become a dealer for mcintosh because there is none in the area but i dont think i would ever sell any of the stuff.

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:34 am

McIntosh is very tough to sell. My old store, Traffic Jams, here in Oklahoma City was the top regional sales leader for McIntosh and we still didn't sell much. But when we made a sale, it was normally to someone who was >35yr, owned his own home, luxury car, probably had McIntosh in his home, that kind of person.

My 92 SHO was our store demo car and we had ALL McIntosh in it. The car would hit, with two 12's, sounded very nice with two sets of 5.25 comps, the headunit was so classy it was ugly to the younger crowd.

If you go that way, it may help me become a Mc owner again.

Just remember, people want chrome baskets and bling flames, not brushed aluminum and power meters backlit in blue.

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:39 am

not much better than the good ole flame Q!!!

Robert Wollenberg · Post by **Robert Wollenberg** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:43 am

I think it's definitely subjective at some level.

I was just thinking about power supply issues in multi-channel amps and channel separation. Why not use one two channel amp per side of the car rather than left and right? Or in my case, mid and tweet. Usually in people's wiring diagrams they run tweets on one amp or front speakers on one amp, then mids or rear speakers on another amp. I was thinking of using a two channel amp for the left mids and tweet and another for the right. The only channel separation issues I'd have would be with my HU. None from the amps. Is there a reason this would be a bad idea?

I know this is a bit off topic from what OnYrMrk just mentioned and I don't mean to detract from that, I just didn't want to start a new thread for that though.

I can fully appreciate what he's talking about. I like to think I can hear the difference from good to bad, but I'm not sure that I could tell the difference at that level. I don't believe I've ever had the pleasure to sit in a car with that level of equipment. Most of the stuff at the CES show while I was there was SPL. Nobody I know runs that level of stuff.

I hope I do get that opportunity one day.

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:20 pm

actually i think mc stuff is some of the most sexy audio equipment that you can buy and im a young guy well pretty young 21. its tuff to sell the good stuff that i got now. i think i have sold more crunch then hifonics and autotek combined. its hard to convince people these days. it would be a dream of mine to be able to have that level of equipment in my shop i might just become a dealer for them sometime when im a head just to have the stuff.

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:20 pm

Shoot, if there is such a thing as a Car Audio Central "National Meet", I would be happy to bring my car out. The system is all "high end" stuff, and when properly tuned, it will make you drool.

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:32 pm

the highest stuff in this area before my store opened was rockford. i am the only shop in watertown that has comps on my display board now isnt that just pathetic. if some people who think they actually have a great sounding car and heard some dls or somethign they would shit their pants. this area is in need of a great car audio shop like mine, lucky i opened. id really like to here your ride. i have heard great things about audison but have got a chance to check them out yet and focal is great just havent got to hear them yet. im running with an eclipse too though 8443 its not the highest but it was the highest the store carried and they wouldnt order me anything higher cause they dont like eclipse and they wanted me to buy a pioneer just a regular one too. it would be very cool to have a national meet.

Bwcad1 · Post by **Bwcad1** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:35 pm

theres nothing wrong with pioneer

OnYrMrk · Post by **OnYrMrk** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:40 pm

well I am still pondering on sending my car out to see you in the future for some lambo doors, so who knows....
I would love to hear some dls too. I am still considering the quote on the tweets so don't count me out on this one yet.

btw, for the competition season, I have a few well known guys who are going to be tuning my car. My rep is pissed, but he will have to understand, unless he is as knowledgable as these two are, there won't be any way I will be having him tune it.