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MobileAudio219
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sq guys.
whats some of your favorite equiment?
1995 Ford Explorer Sport, 4.0, Auto, 2dr, 2wd!
JVC KD-S100, PPI 356c's ,Hifonics ZXI 6410, 10" AB DX
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JVC KD-S100, PPI 356c's ,Hifonics ZXI 6410, 10" AB DX
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Components:
Dynaudio
DLS
Morel
AVI Tri-Star BSM
Rainbow (Profi on up)
SEAS Lotus Reference
JL Audio ZRs
Polk Audio SR6500
MB Quart Q (IF going active with them)
Boston Acoustics Z5/Z6
All in no particular order, mind you
Subs:
JL Audio W6v2
Image Dynamics IDQ/ID Max
Adire Audio Koda/Brahma
Oz Audio Matrix Elite
SEAS Lotus
Dynaudio MW190
Just off the top of my head, there are plenty of others I'm fond of.
Dynaudio
DLS
Morel
AVI Tri-Star BSM
Rainbow (Profi on up)
SEAS Lotus Reference
JL Audio ZRs
Polk Audio SR6500
MB Quart Q (IF going active with them)
Boston Acoustics Z5/Z6
All in no particular order, mind you
Subs:
JL Audio W6v2
Image Dynamics IDQ/ID Max
Adire Audio Koda/Brahma
Oz Audio Matrix Elite
SEAS Lotus
Dynaudio MW190
Just off the top of my head, there are plenty of others I'm fond of.
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William from NOLA
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- Location: Metairie, LA
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Amps:
Audison
Brax
Genesis
Sinfoni
Milbert Tube
Butler
Tru
McIntosh
Zapco
Components:
Dynaudio
Focal
Seas Lotus
Boston Acoustics
MB Quart "Q"
DLS
Genesis Absolute
Subs:
Dynaudio
Focal (Polyglass up)
JL W6v2
Image Dynamics IDQ
Old School Kicker Solobaric (rounds)
pretty much what Jonathan said, plus a few others
Audison
Brax
Genesis
Sinfoni
Milbert Tube
Butler
Tru
McIntosh
Zapco
Components:
Dynaudio
Focal
Seas Lotus
Boston Acoustics
MB Quart "Q"
DLS
Genesis Absolute
Subs:
Dynaudio
Focal (Polyglass up)
JL W6v2
Image Dynamics IDQ
Old School Kicker Solobaric (rounds)
pretty much what Jonathan said, plus a few others
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Speakers & Subs:
Dayton Reference
Peerless XLS
LPG
Vifa MG
Alpine SPX-F17T
OZ Audio CS-130
OZ 200L(H)
Brax Graphic 6
Helix HXS-236
Amps:
Diamond D5 (D6)
Diamond D3
Alpine V12
Memphis Belle
Orion XTR & HCCA
Procs:
Audio Control
HU:
Alpine 9815/9833/9835
Clarion HX-D1, DRX-9255, DRZ-9255
Denon (Old School Pull out HU... think it was the 8570)
Pioneer DEH-P77DH... best GM sized HU I have used.
Dayton Reference
Peerless XLS
LPG
Vifa MG
Alpine SPX-F17T
OZ Audio CS-130
OZ 200L(H)
Brax Graphic 6
Helix HXS-236
Amps:
Diamond D5 (D6)
Diamond D3
Alpine V12
Memphis Belle
Orion XTR & HCCA
Procs:
Audio Control
HU:
Alpine 9815/9833/9835
Clarion HX-D1, DRX-9255, DRZ-9255
Denon (Old School Pull out HU... think it was the 8570)
Pioneer DEH-P77DH... best GM sized HU I have used.
High end equipment doesn't make for sound quality.
I wouldn't really want to list equipment...
It's a valuable component - but ONLY in the context that "your system sounds only as good as the weakest link in the chain"...
...and until you've got the rest of the install so well established that you are seeking out only the finest level of resolution to put that finely honed razors edge on an already solid foundation - the equipment choice is largely subjective.
There's lots of brand names with SQ-oriented branding campaigns.
We deal with Focal and DLS at a shop I work with... Night and day difference between the two, and neither of them inappropriate for a high-end SQ install.
...in fact, in any manufacturer line, there are dramatic differences in sound - maybe none more so than DLS, all their high-end sets sound very different from one another.
But my point is basically this...
...high end equipment does nothing but make the speaker cones move in and out in a way that accurately emulates the signal they are fed - which you would expect to be accurate with respect to the recording, of course.
That's so many levels short of "stimulating the air into accurate sound waves" that it's almost dimented...
...and that's a great many levels short of "sound waves that are accurately arriving at your ears"...
...and that's a great many levels short still of "sound waves are interpreted properly using psychoacoustics to your advantage by your brain from your ears"...
If you can manage the latter three things that I mention, you will have no worries about equipment.
If you can't manage the latter three things I mention, you will have no use for high end equipment, since it's potential won't be realized anyway.
High end equipment doesn't make for sound quality, that's all.
(now let's start some discussions on what DOES!
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I wouldn't really want to list equipment...
It's a valuable component - but ONLY in the context that "your system sounds only as good as the weakest link in the chain"...
...and until you've got the rest of the install so well established that you are seeking out only the finest level of resolution to put that finely honed razors edge on an already solid foundation - the equipment choice is largely subjective.
There's lots of brand names with SQ-oriented branding campaigns.
We deal with Focal and DLS at a shop I work with... Night and day difference between the two, and neither of them inappropriate for a high-end SQ install.
...in fact, in any manufacturer line, there are dramatic differences in sound - maybe none more so than DLS, all their high-end sets sound very different from one another.
But my point is basically this...
...high end equipment does nothing but make the speaker cones move in and out in a way that accurately emulates the signal they are fed - which you would expect to be accurate with respect to the recording, of course.
That's so many levels short of "stimulating the air into accurate sound waves" that it's almost dimented...
...and that's a great many levels short of "sound waves that are accurately arriving at your ears"...
...and that's a great many levels short still of "sound waves are interpreted properly using psychoacoustics to your advantage by your brain from your ears"...
If you can manage the latter three things that I mention, you will have no worries about equipment.
If you can't manage the latter three things I mention, you will have no use for high end equipment, since it's potential won't be realized anyway.
High end equipment doesn't make for sound quality, that's all.
(now let's start some discussions on what DOES!
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GlassWolf
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certain products lend themselves to SQ more than others, or at least certain designs do.
While I'm not disagreeing with geo, I will note that you can look at things like, say, XBL^2 and notice better linearity at higher excursion and consider that and the excellent BL curve signs of a SQ oriented product, versus something disigned strictly for SPL events, where staying linear, or even within magnetic gap doesn't matter as long as it moves more air. Amplifiers are less important to SQ as long as they're clean, have ample power with good power supply implementation, and have all of the controls you're needing.
Signal processing can make or break a system but that comes down to a clean signal, transparency, and the install as Geo noted.
it really isn't a matter of picking the right brand but picking the right design and implementation in the products you choose, to fit the application (vehicle) you're building.
I can go into a lot of reasons for picking each item I used in my car, but the end result is pretty much the same. each item fit the layout I was after, with the least shortcomings, while still fitting my budget.
While I'm not disagreeing with geo, I will note that you can look at things like, say, XBL^2 and notice better linearity at higher excursion and consider that and the excellent BL curve signs of a SQ oriented product, versus something disigned strictly for SPL events, where staying linear, or even within magnetic gap doesn't matter as long as it moves more air. Amplifiers are less important to SQ as long as they're clean, have ample power with good power supply implementation, and have all of the controls you're needing.
Signal processing can make or break a system but that comes down to a clean signal, transparency, and the install as Geo noted.
it really isn't a matter of picking the right brand but picking the right design and implementation in the products you choose, to fit the application (vehicle) you're building.
I can go into a lot of reasons for picking each item I used in my car, but the end result is pretty much the same. each item fit the layout I was after, with the least shortcomings, while still fitting my budget.
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