RF Punch 2 vs Punch 3

Mithrandir · Post by **Mithrandir** » Wed May 25, 2005 7:57 pm

I have a few questions if you would answer em for me. My younger cousin got 2 P2 12s and claims they are uber loud, like he sat in hondas with 2 of em and it was hard to breathe (i dont believe it). He said if they arent loud enough he will get P3s. Now to the questions.

What in the world is the difference between the 2 and the 3 besides the rated power qts, vas and the 1 mm more x max, and how much better will the 3 be than the 2 because of those factors.?
What would make someone pay more for a stage 3?
Will a 3 be alot louder than a 2?

The specs are below

Punch 2

Impedance - 4 ohms
Cone Material - Molded polypropylene
Surround Material - Foam
Sealed Box Volume (cubic feet) - 0.75 - 1.25
Ported Box Volume (cubic feet) - 1.25 - 2
Port diameter (inches) - 4
Port length (inches) - 11
Free-Air - No
Dual Voice Coil - No
Sensitivity - 86dB
Frequency Response - 20 - 0.2k Hz
RMS Power Range (Watts) - 50-200
Peak Power Handling (Watts) - 400
Top Mount Depth (inches) - 5 13/16
Bottom Mount Depth (inches) - N/A
Cutout Diameter or Length (inches) - 11 1/8
Vas (liters) - 97
Fs (Hz) - 25
Qts - 0.488
Xmax (millimeters) - 11

Punch 3

Impedance - 4 ohms
Cone Material - Molded polypropylene
Surround Material - Foam
Sealed Box Volume (cubic feet) - 0.65 - 0.85
Ported Box Volume (cubic feet) - 1.25 - 2
Port diameter (inches) - 4
Port length (inches) - 11
Free-Air - No
Dual Voice Coil - yes
Sensitivity - 87dB
Frequency Response - 20 - 0.2k Hz
RMS Power Range (Watts) - 100-500
Peak Power Handling (Watts) - 1000
Top Mount Depth (inches) - 5 13/16
Bottom Mount Depth (inches) - N/A
Cutout Diameter or Length (inches) - 11 1/8
Vas (liters) - 50
Fs (Hz) - 25
Qts - 0.398
Xmax (millimeters) - 12

Thanks a ton guys

Justin from Detroit1 · Wed May 25, 2005 9:35 pm

I don't know much about RF, never really been a big fan, but I know Chris from MI has a brand new pair of 12" P2's he will let go of cheap if ya want em. PM him if yer interested.

William from NOLA · Post by **William from NOLA** » Wed May 25, 2005 9:36 pm

I can't tell you if it is louder, but I know for a fact that the SQ difference between the two is night and day. P3 over P1 and P2 any day.

daykareboards · Post by **daykareboards** » Thu May 26, 2005 3:58 am

the p3 is dual VC too... I used to have a pair of p2's and they were alright... they got pretty loud but for the price you can get alot better sub.

Justin from Detroit1 · Thu May 26, 2005 5:27 am

daykareboards wrote:the p3 is dual VC too... I used to have a pair of p2's and they were alright... they got pretty loud but for the price you can get alot better sub.

Such as the Elevation Audio Comp :)

audiofreak12 · Post by **audiofreak12** » Thu May 26, 2005 6:23 am

Justin from Detroit wrote:Such as the Elevation Audio Comp :)

Always trying to make a sale....

Ryan from Ohio · Post by **Ryan from Ohio** » Thu May 26, 2005 10:39 am

audiofreak12 wrote:Always trying to make a sale....

Hey man... Can I get a QP of Elevation

sinister audio · Post by **sinister audio** » Thu May 26, 2005 11:18 am

the elevation comp would kill those p2's even the 10"s would kill thier 12"s

Mithrandir · Post by **Mithrandir** » Thu May 26, 2005 11:23 am

William from NOLA wrote:I can't tell you if it is louder, but I know for a fact that the SQ difference between the two is night and day. P3 over P1 and P2 any day.

Do you know why the sq is better or you just know from hearing?

To give yall a laugh, my little cousin is gonna keep getting better subs or adding them until he breaks all his windows. I just ignore this kid and avoid him as much as I can, hes one of those people that think he is the greatest person on earth.

djman37 · Post by **djman37** » Thu May 26, 2005 11:32 am

RF p3 series are cast basket also instead of rolled or stamped steel. The P1 and P2 try to look cast.
From the T/S parameters given, there are some I personally look for that are missing from the list. Qes, Qms, Le, BL.